What were the first Video Games on CD? - The Tech & The Games

21 maj 2020
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What were the first games ever released on CD? Today we explore the technology, the games and the approaches taken to putting them on CD.
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  • Sinclair user article on CD audio disk based games.. from issue Jan '90 (so written earlier).... archive.org/stream/sinclair-user-magazine-094#page/n19/mode/2up

    rosemeyer1939rosemeyer19397 dagar sedan
  • And they probably all got the idea from The BBC Domesday Project on the BBC Micro (Master) ;)

    Richard BroadhurstRichard BroadhurstMånad sedan
  • In my timeline and location, the Spectrum days were way before any CD would appear, it was 1997 when I had my first CD (6x, Lion Optics, piece of crap) drive, in a glorified 5x86 config, and by then I thought Spectrum was already belonging to the past. Let alone the retro vibe of these recent years... Part 2: seworld.info/will/sHnMvcatnXZj058/video

    securitycounterchecksecuritycountercheckMånad sedan
  • c.d. games started in 95 when I bought the kids (me) the psx, c.d. roms started in about 96 when I spent way too much for my first p.c. it was Jack Nicklaus tour for me. go ahead, say I'm wrong!

    Daniel MartinezDaniel MartinezMånad sedan
  • It's a little underwhelming but if a game loaded from an audio CD was not really a CD game, the same would have to apply to cassette. Rainbow Arts did it

    D. RiosD. Rios2 månader sedan
  • The cover for Fighting Street would make an awesome poster.

    Mike OliverMike Oliver2 månader sedan
  • The seventh guest... some weird Aztec thing with Galleons in space..

    ComfortableWedgieComfortableWedgie2 månader sedan
  • My humble opinion: those audio cd doesn't have a file allocation table available and readable by the computer so ... they're not a cdrom.

    Fernando FilgueiraFernando Filgueira2 månader sedan
  • I still wonder... How many bytes of red book audio did they have to use for each byte of program data?

    Jacob SwansonJacob Swanson4 månader sedan
  • I had no idea cleaner sound from CD could directly translate into a higher bitrate for demodulating into ram, but it makes sense

    John SimonJohn Simon4 månader sedan
  • I thought it was Rebel Assault. I had it with my 2x Speed CD Rom Drive.

    trex70trex705 månader sedan
  • "Have a biscuit baby" is my new pickup line. Guaranteed to work every time :D

    Dr Jafar CalleyDr Jafar Calley5 månader sedan
  • 12:54 You can certainly see which images had the photoshopping done by the intern....

    slightlyevolvedslightlyevolved5 månader sedan
  • I need that shirt!

    VisionismVisionism5 månader sedan
  • OK, I knew about the PC-Engine (not the exact titles) but the rest was very interesting. But seeing this, I probably have seen the C64 versions in store back then. Didn't pay much interest back then, because I already had an Amiga.

    IntyMichaelIntyMichael5 månader sedan
  • CDTV and the 7th Guest was one of my favorite , CDi and Burn Cycle

    imran chaudhryimran chaudhry5 månader sedan
  • The real reason the loading is so much faster is the CD is in stereo. That's also why you need that special cable (the cassette port in Speccy is mono). With two channels, you can use a much faster encoding. Clever!

    Pasi KettunenPasi Kettunen5 månader sedan
    • @James Churchill Oops, looks like they are identical indeed. But there is something funky going on with the modulation, clearly seen at 22'02 See that worm-like wiggling.. Definitely not standard Speccy modulation just speeded-up

      Pasi KettunenPasi Kettunen5 månader sedan
    • Except the two channels are identical and the loader is a hacked version of the standard spectrum tape loader, just running much faster. The encoding is unchanged. Tapes have wonky speed control and poor frequency response that forces the bitrate to be a lot slower and the micro to spend most of it's time waiting. The CD playback is a lot more accurate so the delays can be taken out.

      James ChurchillJames Churchill5 månader sedan
  • He finally answers the title's question around 11:14.

    HippieMumboJumboHippieMumboJumbo5 månader sedan
  • As I can remember the MSX got a CD games collection on audio CD in 1988. The Aackosoft cd sequentail. Like thevideo btw

    Robin23576Robin235765 månader sedan
  • The very first video game on CD-ROM was Dragon's Lair. It was an arcade game and not a home PC ans a LaserDisc rather than Compact Disk which may be why you missed it.

    Russell SchiwalRussell Schiwal5 månader sedan
    • Laserdisc isnt CD, so it doesn't count.

      James ChurchillJames Churchill5 månader sedan
  • I remember the adverts for the Codemasters CDs in 89

    Chris Hopkins BassChris Hopkins Bass5 månader sedan
  • Very interesting bits of history

    Paul PotterPaul Potter5 månader sedan
  • disketto

    StarFox85StarFox855 månader sedan
  • 10 of those Amega ++ boards for $5! That is impressively, unbelievably cheap.

    Timothy SherrattTimothy Sherratt5 månader sedan
  • Interesting, but is it the answer to your title, first Video Games on CD as we have many games in the Arcade that run on CD.. I was thinking Dragon's Lair and some Gunslingers game and other Laserdisc games. Seem's like Astron Belt is an arcade game developed by Sega, first demonstrated in 1982 and then released in 1983. It was the first laserdisc game, running on the Sega Laserdisc hardware. It was later ported to the MSX computer in 1984. I just was checking ur video if your were focusing on Home vs Commerical markets, not sure.

    Dave RepairsDave Repairs5 månader sedan
  • Hi Neil! Great video as always. I do have a challenge for you though... In this video, you mentioned that Spectrum games sometimes took 10 minutes (or more) to load with a cassette. It is very common to hear that in the internet nowadays, but as per my calculations (and memories), if you take into consideration the data throughput speed of cassettes and the maximum memory of a ZX Spectrum (48k) it is not possible for any game to take this long to load. I believe this is an urban myth that I would like to see debunked (or proven) in one of your videos, as it seems to be right down RetroManCave's alley. Take care and keep churning these entertaining videos out! Cheers.

    Bruno FonsecaBruno Fonseca5 månader sedan
    • It absolutely does take that long. Not only was there significant overhead in the encoding (it is not "just take the bitstream and write it out") but there would also be loading screens and sometimes music that had to be loaded first before the actual game data could be brought in. And that's before you even get into multiloaders... Edit: also, "urban myth"? This isn't something that just gets passed around as hearsay; many of us actually lived through the tape era and have direct experience of it, and it's trivially easy these days to grab a tape image and play it either into an emulator or actual hardware and verify it for yourself.

      James ChurchillJames Churchill5 månader sedan
  • Rebel Assault

    Patrick MaloneyPatrick Maloney5 månader sedan
  • I am surprised that you went through the history of optical media without mentioning LDROM. 1983's Dragons Lair and the 1986 BBC Domesday project had already shown the potential of optical media so it was inevitable that people would try to do something similar with Laserdisc's little brother.

    MrDunclMrDuncl5 månader sedan
  • My first CD games were Diggers and Oscar that came with my CD32. My PC didn't get a CD-ROM drive until Hexen

    Nicola RedmondNicola Redmond5 månader sedan
  • there all software on cd.

    elton badhamelton badham5 månader sedan
  • A really interesting rabbit hole is to follow up on ISO standards. It's a good thing to know if you're going to buy hardware.

    SandyRiverBlueSandyRiverBlue5 månader sedan
  • First CD-Rom experience for this American chap: Myst for the Mac, then I finally got my first PC, a 486/sx25 Acer prebuilt from a local shop. With that MAMMOTH purchase (monitor, system, generic mouse/keyboard, CD-Rom, Sound Card (SB16), CH Flight Stick Pro, SW: Rebel Assault, Strike Commander (EA ♥ this game!) and finally Wolfenstein 3D totaled $2,900 (over $5,000 today... for a 486 win 3.1 system... wow, mom THANK YOU!!) in 1993. These were my first loves in CD-Rom gaming. From 1993 to 2020 I've been a PC gamer, even if I did start on the NES I saw the massive potential in PC gaming. I had more unique games, gore filled games, adult games (leisure suit larry haha) and of course, pirated games.... hey blame the store where I got my system from. The salesman sold me a burned copy of Spear of Destiny, Rambo, Arachnophobia, Commander Keen Kollection, Hexen and a few more for like $20 a title. PC gaming back then was much more difficult compared to today, boot disks that would literally try to trick your system into performing in a certain way. Sound issues? Boot disk. Not enough memory? Boot disk. Joystick inop? Boot disk. Friend pissing you off about playing some stupid game you have no interest in? Boot disk so the game runs like crap or doesn't work at all... hahaha those were the days. When every game released had a Tech Support Line you could call and they would help you create a boot disk. When you could go to CompUSA and return any piece of software within 30 days, for any reason. Don't like the game? Game too short? Copied the game to 3.5 floppies? Return the retail package, photocopy the manual/key card for their "anti piracy" codes/keys and get another. Seriously one major reason that chain died so long ago, they made no money on software 😂😂Sorry for the rant, videos like this get me all sentimental and crap. Loved the video and now a sub, really liked this!!

    DuaneDuane5 månader sedan
  • As you know, PCB stands for Perifractic's Cavedweller Bonus. Doesn't it? ;P

    GreyHulk2GreyHulk25 månader sedan
  • This is far better than the title suggests.... interesting video.

    FEEDING THE ZEITGEISTFEEDING THE ZEITGEIST5 månader sedan
  • I was reading a PC Magazine March 1992 issue and they had a 2x cd drive from Media Vision that cost 969 dollars. That is the earliest I have read of 2x drives being out. all the early consoles that came out in the early 90s had 1x drives this being the cd1, pc engine cd and the sega cd

    tHeWasTeDYouThtHeWasTeDYouTh5 månader sedan
    • Someone I know paid for similarly priced CD ROM drive by buying CD ROMs of shareware and then selling shareware floppy discs of the individual programs. Fun fact. In the same issue of Personal Computer World Magazine in which they review the then new Amiga 1200 there is an advert for a Philips CD ROM writer. It cost several £1000s and the blanks discs cost significantly more than a pressed CD. Not surprisingly the whole advert is aimed at businesses www.computerhistory.org/storageengine/consumer-cd-r-drive-priced-below-1000/

      MrDunclMrDuncl5 månader sedan
  • I want the Amstrad one :/

    JoliieJoliie5 månader sedan
  • "hey this is painful to listen to! Let's listen to it together!"

    Beau GutheryBeau Guthery5 månader sedan
  • This is too cool. Ganna have to rewatch

    Nick PavloffNick Pavloff5 månader sedan
  • Fantastic video! enjoyed...

    DJ TwentyDJ Twenty5 månader sedan
  • 14:55 I’d say it was a CD-ROM ROM CD-ROM :)

    Pardo ItaloPardo Italo5 månader sedan
  • Just by the footage you showed, I think your character in the No-Ri-Ko game is supposed to be a Japanese businessman and NOT a teenager. This would make sense because, While Idols (the japanese term for a manufactured pop singer basically, there is more to it then that, but Japanese "Idol" culture is a bit hard to explain) are marketed more to teenagers now, my impression is that in the 80s and early 90s they were more marketed towards lonely Japanese businessmen. I'm not exactly a fan of Japanese pop music but I am interested in a few things adjacent to it.

    Kandi GlossKandi Gloss5 månader sedan
  • Frankly cover CDs and floppy disks took the fun out of typing pages of machine code or Basic from magazine articles just to get games running. We should bring it back. It got me programming in hexadecimal on a Z80. Software for my Exidy Sorcerer is still available online in MP3 format.

    Sam ShortSam Short5 månader sedan
  • It’s a shame no good rip of the codemasters disc exists. It’s a piece of the format’s history and should be preserved as such. And if it’s just shareware titles then it’s not even like there’s a copyright issue

    MrRom92DAWMrRom92DAW5 månader sedan
  • Fun fact about the hole on cd/dvd/bc, in that hole perfectly fits an old 10 cent guilder. In dutch a "duppie"

    DjZiggyDjZiggy6 månader sedan
  • Well for me my first memory of a CD-ROM based game would be The 7th Guest on PC CD-ROM. Arh great memories from the day.

    Richard ParsonsRichard Parsons6 månader sedan
  • 21:30 Sounds like a bat call, or some insect, or something.

    DesmaadDesmaad6 månader sedan
  • My first game on the PC was Magic Carpet by Bullfrog in 1995, with a x2 Mitsumi CDROM drive and proprietary controller. I then swapped my SB pro 2 for a SB AWE32 and the used the integrated mitsumi controller, until I swapped the drive for a NEC SCSI 3x, very able to clog the ISA bus... Old times PC...

    CaptainDangeaxCaptainDangeax6 månader sedan
  • I agree with you, a game on a CD is a game on a CD. Regardless of the format or how the game is loaded, because lets be real, no one is going to be popping those redbook CDs into their Discman to listen to.

    Altima NEOAltima NEO6 månader sedan
  • The Manhole is great!

    HypertalkingHypertalking6 månader sedan
  • I saw this in ACE in '89 (me, aged 10) and DESPERATELY wanted the codemaster's games pack on CD...

    Alexanders MaggsAlexanders Maggs6 månader sedan
  • The first one i can remember is sq4 talkie version :)

    peterdevreterpeterdevreter6 månader sedan
  • I have that Rainbow Arts CD in my collection. According to my list, I bought it for about 40 DM (aka 20 Euro). This sounds quite cheap, because the UVP was between 90 and 100 DM (45-50 Euro) at that time. But I am quite sure, that I got the CD before or around the time I bought an Amiga computer. And that was definetly in early 1990, just a couple of month before Graftgolds marvelous conversion of Rainbow Islands was released. The compilation works like you said: It had an Adapter, which connected the C64 with a CD Player via the cassette port. The games were stored like the ones on the codemasters CD: as Red Book Audio. In fact, they stored every game twice, just in case the CD was slightly damaged at some point. So you could still load the games thanks to these backup tracks. Between these tracks was some music from the famous composer Chris Hülsbeck: The complete soundtrack of the Amiga version of Hollywood Poker Pro, the Intro of Starball (also from Amiga) and the C64 intros of To be on Top, Danger Freak and Katakis. So this CD Rom was also the first CD based release of Hülsbecks music. Last but not least: The collection itself was a remarkable unique compilation of very different games and from a lot of different publishers. The highlights were David's Midnight Magic, Impossible Mission, Loderunner and M.U.L.E. There was also Dropzone, Fist II, Leaderboard Golf, Mission Elevator and Solomon's Key. The only game from Rainbow Arts was Jinks, which also was quite good, but ironically the "worst" game of the whole bunch (but again with some asskicking music by Chris ;).

    Andy AwardianAndy Awardian6 månader sedan
  • #RETRORBG brought me here. I think I'll kick the tyres and see how she fits.

    Mouse PounderMouse Pounder6 månader sedan
  • The FM Towns released in february 1989 with a bunch of CD-Rom games. It's also the first system that allows the cdrom drive to boot into either the operating system (it was on the CD on release) or straight into the game.

    FularuFularu6 månader sedan
  • I still have my copy of Myst lying around in one of my CD stacks, somewhere.

    PsyrecxPsyrecx6 månader sedan
  • If it's a game and it comes on a CD, that's good enough for me.

    mintydog06mintydog066 månader sedan
  • It would have been lovely if games for the 8-bit micros had seen audio CD releases as well as cassettes, especially for multi-loads. I guess it was just too early, and the market was so driven by pocket money prices for games.

    Duncan WardDuncan Ward6 månader sedan
  • So many early to mid 90’s games had the annoying redbook format, tethered to cue sheets, discs wildly spinning front to back trying to keep up. I use SHSU virtual cd drive in DOS on my old machines and it’s always a bummer when a game requires that cue sheet and can’t run from an ISO format. And that’s probably half the games

    The Volume RemoteThe Volume Remote6 månader sedan
  • So here's a question, what what was the first game on CD to use the ISO 9660 file system? And what was the deal with some Mac games I've seen (specifically Pegasus Prime) using the Joliet file system? I've always heard Spaceship Warlock being one of the earliest CD-ROM games but I think there has to be something earlier that fits the yellow book standard.

    SeanSean6 månader sedan
  • I think I bought three FMV games early on. Myst, megarace & under a killing moon. apart from that I bought day of the tentacle & simon the sorcerer

    Kevin GalvayneKevin Galvayne6 månader sedan
  • There was also a games collection CD released on MSX in '88

    jaydy71jaydy716 månader sedan
  • I had the code masters one, half the games didn’t even load... grr

    Billy BollockheadBilly Bollockhead6 månader sedan
  • Because as we all know, PCB stands for PetroCanBave

    Paul RouxPaul Roux6 månader sedan
  • Great video!! Congrats!! I missed a mention to the The Games Collection, a MSX CD compilation which was published in 1988. You can find a good picture here: www.msx.org/es/node/57848

    Z80STsoftwareZ80STsoftware6 månader sedan
  • I bought the CD Games Pack for the C64 when it came out. As I remember it was very hard to get hold of and I very nearly took it back to the shop when it wouldnt work. Took me a whole night of trying to realise that the graphic equalizer on my HiFi that I was using to load from the CD was interfering with it and I had to level all the channels to get it to work. I was a big fan of codemasters games so already had a few games already off it, which is why a lot of people probably passed it by.

    ClickTechClickTech6 månader sedan
  • i would probably answer 7Guest to that question but let's see the answer on video ! very interresting subject

    Combofate RenanCombofate Renan6 månader sedan
  • Mind..... blown..... away!! 🤯🤯 I had absolutely no idea of a CD format published for the spectrum. Rubber key my introduction to the computing and gaming world, followed by the Amstrad CPC 464, then back to a Spectrum +2. Amiga was the first time I was to get my hands onto games on CDROM via the PCMCIA slot drives. To think these ideas were being developed way before was such an interesting insight. I’m definitely on the side that these then are indeed the rightful owner to the rights of first games on CD. Regardless of ongoing load during play, they were indeed stored on a CD media. Brilliant.

    botty1981botty19816 månader sedan
  • In my opinion, if the CD used for a system was intended to hold a game in ANY form, be it audio or digital data, I'd say thats a game CD. ALSO I can't believe I never thought about using a CD to store the audio data like a casset would for loading games on casset/audio loading systems. That makes me wonder though, could anything that makes the tones in a suitable maner be used? Perhaps using a tone generator and a switch or button could be used?

    Matt BrineMatt Brine6 månader sedan
  • Okay so you have all these games that came out on some sort of CD, and I have a "Best of Basicode 5" CD from 1988 that has sixty (let's face it: useless) programs that predates all these. But the question: "What was the first game on Yellow Book compliant CD-ROM" didn't get answered. Was that Myst?

    Jac GoudsmitJac Goudsmit6 månader sedan
  • I believe worthy of mentioning was the October 15, 1992 game that caused all games afterward (in the US) to be required to have a maturity level rating. That game was "Night Trap". A Sega full motion single player suspense / mystery were you are to save a group of teen girls on vacation from vampires. I believe it was originally intended to be released on a 1989 console that never got developed so it was shelved a few years. 1991 game developers "Digital Pictures" finally got it released. The controversy around it for rating was that it was believed to inspire violence against women.

    Mikiness AnalogMikiness Analog6 månader sedan
  • Congrats on over 100K.......

    Jimmy PlenderleithJimmy Plenderleith6 månader sedan
  • I share Retromancave's opinion that a game on CD is a game on CD; regardless of whether its a rainbowbook standard, proprietary or just plain redbook audio as in the case with the codemasters one. To debate otherwise is getting into MLIG levels of awkwardness for the sake of it.

    RED DRED D6 månader sedan
  • this, sir, was a great video from the cave!

    Silvio TischerSilvio Tischer6 månader sedan
  • 2:50 so, we missed the opportunity to be calling CD's "ODR" ? Oh Dear ! :)

    Greg LyrisGreg Lyris6 månader sedan
  • My guess when I first saw this was that it must have been some sort of compilation but I assumed shareware compilations rather than a compilation of cassette-based titles (which obviously makes sense in retrospect). How they managed to compress the audio was pretty neat, though, and the idea that the C64 likely had the first CD games is pretty humourous.

    Declawed BoysDeclawed Boys6 månader sedan
  • No.Ri.Ko Noriko Ogawa 9 albums from 1987 to 2002, she released her last single in 2005, the same year she was married.

    Iain CowellIain Cowell6 månader sedan
    • It took a long time for someone to finally beat her at rock-paper-scissors.

      zeprfrewzeprfrew6 månader sedan
  • I remember having THE SECRET OF MONKEY ISLAND on CD in 92.

    Iain CowellIain Cowell6 månader sedan
  • First one I remember was Day Of The Tentacle

    Alan BourkeAlan Bourke6 månader sedan
  • This is the first time I've heard about C64 and Speccy games on CD, but wouldn't have made much difference as I didn't get my first CD player until 1991.

    ChalkyChalky6 månader sedan
  • Pc engine wins, we only care about what game and system loaded a game from a cd directly, no cables or accesories.

    Reviewed PopcornReviewed Popcorn6 månader sedan
    • Watch this space.... something even earlier may have come to light. Also the PC Engine CD-ROM2 is an accessory

      RMC - The CaveRMC - The Cave6 månader sedan
  • Big Ups To Gary Kildall for helping to bring us the yellow book standard!

    AllboroLCDAllboroLCD6 månader sedan
  • Absolutely Brilliant!

    AllboroLCDAllboroLCD6 månader sedan
  • I remember that when I got my first computer with a CD drive (a Power Mac 6100) AOL was still usually distributing their software on unsolicited floppies, not unsolicited CDs. But I got one of the first AOL CDs from a free bin at Micro Center, and most of it was rounded out with a big wad of shovelware from BMUG, a Mac user group (mostly shareware games). Early on, that was a lot of the software that I had to amuse myself with. I remember being tickled that one little corner of the CD had the complete works of Shakespeare stashed in it. O brave new world.

    Matt McIrvinMatt McIrvin6 månader sedan
  • Yes, I remember reading about the Codemasters CD in Amstrad Action back in 1989(?) . The novelty of storing a game on a CD and the large storage capacity of a CD, in coomparison to a standard casstte or floppy disk from the era, always lodged in my mind. Like a few others here ,was wondering whether it'd come up.

    Gaur1983Gaur19836 månader sedan
  • On that 30-games-on-a-disk Collection for the Speccy, One stood out to me, Snooker Simulator, It was like crashing into a wall of pure nostalgia. Remember sinking hours playing against my Brother and my Dad trying to get the 147 break, can't remember if I ever got it though! Talking about CD-Roms, It doesn't matter if it's you or Tech Connections, it's such an interesting topic, great video!

    RockRedGenesisRockRedGenesis6 månader sedan
  • Playing the PS1 discs on my dad's hi-fi (hands over ears) for track 1. Incidentally the first track from DragonForce's Valley of the Damned album uses a sample from a track found on the PS1 version of Duke Nukem.

    The HootsforceThe Hootsforce6 månader sedan
  • I don't understand why those 8 bit machines needed a special adaptor - why couldn't you just swap out the cassette tape audio in with the CD audio? I'm know people use their MP3 players this way for that retro loading...

    Fifury161Fifury1616 månader sedan
  • "Want some Rye?, 'course you do!"

    Fifury161Fifury1616 månader sedan
  • As always a very informative video from the RMC

    Matthew McGraveyMatthew McGravey6 månader sedan
  • I see that someone has got a green screen now. One thing I would like to say is that the sheer production quality of your videos is impressive!

    Theo BombasTheo Bombas6 månader sedan
  • Try Fatal Fury Special or Art of Fighting on PCE CDRom with the official Arcade card add-on - you wouldn't believe it's the same machine running Fighting Street 👍

    Kaylied GamerKaylied Gamer6 månader sedan
  • Anyone know what the CD drive I had with my A1200 was? I remember buying it from a shot in St Albans, they only had two and I was lucky to get one as well as a copy of stardust for the cd32 which had just been released. It wasn’t the best of games but played well on the A1200. I found the disk in my loft last wee which reminded me. My A1200 and cd drive got nicked when I was burgled years ago.

    Phill .LuckhurstPhill .Luckhurst6 månader sedan
  • Rainbow Arts 1st Edition can be found here with loader: oms.wmhost.com/Rainbow_Arts/ Found it via here: www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37878&sid=fbbdac709038555ead65a03bee4e8812 (not tested though).

    MD4564MD45646 månader sedan
  • Maybe call it a CD-PROM for the NEC? CD- Proprietary Readable Optical Media.. Could work as a name i suppose. :)

    peter obermullerpeter obermuller6 månader sedan
  • Everything that loads from CD is a CD game. At least from program standpoint. Using the audio input just lucks track selection and adds another modulation step.

    NOPIK NOPNOPIK NOP6 månader sedan
  • Reading through the archive of Ace magazine it seems that there was a CD-ROM version of Defender of the Crown available for the first PC CD-ROM drive in 1989. It had EGA graphics and an 'orchestral' soundtrack. Whether this predated the Manhole, or if any were sold or have survived I don't know, but I've never heard of it outside the pages of Ace.

    MrFaceHeadMrFaceHead6 månader sedan
  • Given that Sinclair and C64 games were commonly available on cassette I have no problems with the compilation being the first CD game for micro computers. With Redbook coming out first it makes sense that this would be the first format used. PC engine is an interesting one since they had insider knowledge that allowed them to release earlier than others.

    mockiermockier6 månader sedan
  • Not really triggered as I really don't give a s*^%, but compilations of old games on CD that weren't CD games don't count as CD games. That's like saying VHS movies/TV shows copied to DVD count the same as commercial DVD movies/TV shows...or that just because Nickelback has CDs, it counts as legitimate music. ;-)

    xnonsuchxxnonsuchx6 månader sedan
  • that's a cool compilation CD

    Benjamin WestBenjamin West6 månader sedan
  • For some reason RMC makes my Google Assistant to go off randomly

    Paul JohnsonPaul Johnson6 månader sedan
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