How old school cassette tape drives worked

25 jun 2016
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In this episode we take an in depth look at what life was like using cassette drives for storage on computers during the 1970's and 1980's.

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  • i born in 2006 i don't have any idea what they're talking about lol but i watch the whole video XD

    palak bapak mupalak bapak mu3 dagar sedan
  • 2:20 Actual sound it made

    LeortisLeortis6 dagar sedan
  • Everyone: (talking about technical specs and their personal experience) LGR: "Yeah, cassettes are cool"

    Tman2097Tman20978 dagar sedan
  • I researched this video just to prove that I did use cassette tape in a computer in 82 but at the time I had no clue it was so new back than we used the computer in the back room in school were the teacher smoked and if anyone remember this did your high school have a smoke room cause we did if u were over 16 and the teacher could smoke right there in public school

    Marie BradleyMarie Bradley10 dagar sedan
  • Damn, this guy loves Futurama so much

    TheAdaptableAnkleTheAdaptableAnkle12 dagar sedan
  • A Game on a Vinyl record?

    RC_PC _5631RC_PC _563116 dagar sedan
  • My Timex Sinclair 1000 baby!!!

    Matt BlatchleyMatt Blatchley16 dagar sedan
  • Used standard audio tape drive with my TI-99-4A. At around age 9 when I got the Adam ColecoVision with the high speed "Digital Data Pack" cassette, I thought I was hot s--t. :D

    Dennis MartinDennis Martin18 dagar sedan
  • I remember that before loading a game you would first need to calibrate the alignment of the tape head. To do this you would poke a small (tiny) screw driver into the hole above the "Commodore" label and tighten of loosen a tuning screw. The tuning process was visualized with the help of a program called "Head tune" that you would usually load from a cartridge. If you didn't do this most certainly the game/program would not load. I'm surprised that this was not mentioned in the video. But maybe this was something specific only for my country (Poland). Thanks for the great video!

    KangurosKanguros19 dagar sedan
  • My Mum had a ZX Spectrum. She speaks of it with a pained, haunted expression.

    ZolfirZolfir20 dagar sedan
  • I still have some of these cassetes.

    Mr. GigiMr. Gigi24 dagar sedan
  • I find it weird as an Australian about how tape drives were supposedly popular but I knew no-one with a C64 (out of 6 as a kid) who had one. It was 100% floppy drive, which was the same with me and my poor x86 who couldn't share basic games with them since I was the only one with a PC. :( Maybe this was just a rural thing?

    denormativedenormative26 dagar sedan
  • I grew up with this cassette loading thing, but I'm disappointed with this video, because I actually don't got answer on how it's worked : /

    EfaiEfaiMånad sedan
  • My brother did not believe me when I informed him that cassettes were used as a storage medium for (early-80's) PCs. I look forward to when CDs are considered an odd storage medium. See you in 10-years! o7

    Stone PreviousStone PreviousMånad sedan
  • My first was a Vic20 with a tape drive and a 16k cartridge. And yes, Omega Race was awesome!

    Lynn WillisLynn WillisMånad sedan
  • OMG i had never known that cassette tapes can also be used to store games and programs and not just music or movie. Awsome video

    Baka KokoroBaka KokoroMånad sedan
  • What was the web site for the cassette audio? Please include links in your descriptions .

    PoorManPoorManMånad sedan
  • Where do I find the cassette port adapter that lets you load/save from any audio source?

    PoorManPoorManMånad sedan
  • We would have this weekly radio programme broadcasting a new program for your computer. Simply record it and load it up, was called Basicode and served different platforms it being a universal BASIC language.

    L.E. RobboL.E. RobboMånad sedan
  • I grew up in the 1980s too, but I never saw this technology like this in my household. I had Nintendo, Gameboy, and a bunch of Tiger handhelds'. But games on audio cassettes, we were not that rich. But I did have Guns and Rose's, Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 on audio cassette.

    WiseAssGamerWiseAssGamerMånad sedan
  • Can you/someone explain what sound waves are representing ? Are they just equivalent of 1s and 0s ? Or does it carrying basic language commands in waves ? Or assembly ? Or machine code ? I watched one of your videos about hacking and captain crunch from cereal box was capable of sending a sound wave understandable by telephone server(something like 30000 hz if I remember correctly). Can we make make a sound that a commodore/apple/Atari can understand ? Sending/receiving data with waves is fascinating. Thank you for sharing this tech. My childhood past with amiga and C64...

    cthrekgoructhrekgoruMånad sedan
  • 15 minute load time? That's almost as bad as my laptop!

    Ľubomír DurkáčĽubomír DurkáčMånad sedan
  • Germany is/was practically a 51st US state when it comes to trade ... like a colder version of California with beer and Weisswurst

    AnophelesAnophelesMånad sedan
  • I remember having a tape driver for my first Atari 800. It was horribly unreliable.

    Carl StarrettCarl Starrett2 månader sedan
  • Is there any way to take the tape into the computer and rather than run the program, have it spit out the code that is on the tape?

    Philip ToddPhilip Todd2 månader sedan
  • Is your t shirt an Atari ready screen?

    Mark ThackrayMark Thackray2 månader sedan
  • Even today I use tapes and floppies and they work great! I use Atari 8 bit gear, and the modern games are breathtaking. Sio is an awesome design. Got a laptop hooked with my 1050s and it's amazing. So much fun. My modern consoles hardly get a look in. I sold my c64s and speccys few years ago and I really regret it!

    Mark ThackrayMark Thackray2 månader sedan
  • I still have a c16 plus4 with a tape drive.. still gets plenty of use

    Iain BruceIain Bruce2 månader sedan
  • 2:30 that’s your old theme

    Miner and The Great squadMiner and The Great squad2 månader sedan
  • I want a tape drive, LTO-8 But now it's very expensive. LTO-8 is cheaper if backup data exceeds 275TB, but HDD is better if backup data does not exceed 240TB. I need 48TB of backup data in the near future, so need 3ea of additional 16TB HDD. Tape drives may not have anything to do with my life.

    박대석박대석2 månader sedan
  • I remember the Airwolf game for C64. It took forever to load from cassette, not unusually resulting in the feared message of “LOAD ERROR”. 😬

    Jacco van DijkJacco van Dijk2 månader sedan
  • Gunship for C-64 took easily 15-20 minutes to load.

    Pasi KymäläinenPasi Kymäläinen2 månader sedan
  • Nice walk down memory lane! I also remember the "turbo-tapes" for commodore 64. 😁👍

    Loke Andreas HelheimLoke Andreas Helheim2 månader sedan
  • My mind is blown! I had never heard of this until a few minutes ago! WOW

    Spot JunkySpot Junky2 månader sedan
  • My Atari 800 cassette drive ATE more programs than not. Got so frustrated with it, much to my father's chagrin, I stopped using it. Needed a disc drive, but $$$$$$$ 1981-83.I was 11-13

    James E StubbsJames E Stubbs2 månader sedan
  • this is cool lol and it sound like a atm dang they should of made it in vhs to there been room for more then one game

    Truth FinderTruth Finder2 månader sedan
  • 12:13 2-3 minutes max for loading a game froma cassette ??? Lol in my memories it was 40 min to load Gunship (microprose), receive brief, and have debrief for a 15 minutes mission... Airborne ranger (microprose too) was the same pictures. Really... 1541 drive saved my day :-)

    Chris MMMChris MMM2 månader sedan
  • Its cool that cassette games used the same principals as dial-up.

    BagelMakesBagelMakes2 månader sedan
  • FullTilt Pinball

    UberBR_UberBR_2 månader sedan
  • On the C64 in the UK, cassettes were king. 2 reasons: 1) Disks were expensive at the time and 2) With a half decent hi-fi you could copy tape to tape, was especially handy if the hi-fi had fast tape recording. I got the official Commodore tape player, but I somehow ended up with an off brand that seemed to be far more reliable.

    trelardtrelard2 månader sedan
  • /print (“Great Video”) Great Video

    Dapping ForeverDapping Forever2 månader sedan
  • 5:04 Hi BENDER

    Aiden JooAiden Joo3 månader sedan
  • Yay - Turbo Tape! I suddenly feel so oooooold! :D

    Commander KrugeCommander Kruge3 månader sedan
  • atleast you didnt mark all of ireland as the uk :)

    XENONXENON3 månader sedan
  • Both tape drives and disk drives were common in Finland, but obviously disk drives primarily in the later part of the 1980s.

    Joojoo jeejeeJoojoo jeejee3 månader sedan
  • You connected your iPhone to an Apple IIe and downloaded a game off the internet to it. Mind blown.

    Jordan SpringerJordan Springer3 månader sedan
  • What website did he get those cassette sounds from?

    Syd BarrettSyd Barrett3 månader sedan
  • 2:18 WOW that sounds like AOL Dial Up

    allthingsbgiallthingsbgi3 månader sedan
  • In 89 and 90, my employer was using these cassette drives to "Program" our checkout Terminals. Since I already owned much more advanced technology at home, this was a real shocker!

    Robin JacobsRobin Jacobs4 månader sedan
  • Wow thanks for sharing

    forever SHAMPOOforever SHAMPOO4 månader sedan
  • In theory, these 8 bit computers could use CDs

    Sean MaplesSean Maples4 månader sedan
    • Now that I think about it yes you could record a program to an Audio CD. I know there's a program that let's you pass C64 .TAP files to audio streams so you can put them on a tape just change the tape recorder for CD recorder and maybe you could save to a CD. I don't know if you could load to the C64 but a ZX Spectrum or any computer that uses a 3.5 audio jack input may take the signal instead of the proprietary C64 Datasette port. So yeah technically you could load software from CDs on to a 8 bit computer.

      SuperTaba10SuperTaba103 månader sedan
  • my first computer commodore 64 bought it in april 87 11 years old

    Helgi JacobsenHelgi Jacobsen4 månader sedan
  • is it a coincidence that the audio sounds like dial up?

    Laura NolastnamegivenLaura Nolastnamegiven4 månader sedan
  • When i was a kid (back in like 2005) i remember we were still using Windows 98 and my aunt was still using an old Macintosh with the 3.5 inch floppies i asked my aunt if she still had the Macintosh but she got rid of it a long time ago for windows 7

    EntityEntity4 månader sedan
    • All

      Sean MacattramSean MacattramMånad sedan
  • Do you know that a C64 (and other compatible computers using a tape interface) have stored all files TWICE on the tape ? This soon comes to my mind because listening to one by audio opened up that it is always twice the same sequences per program. (short test progs revealed this fact very quickly)

    Bernd PBernd P4 månader sedan
  • Nice A$$ alert at 5:42

    Michael PiziakMichael Piziak4 månader sedan
  • My Friend: "Hey dude! What are you listening to?" Me: "Pacman" My Friend: "Nice! Can I hear it?" PSSSSS GRRRRR RAAAAAAAAAAA

    AgentottenAgentotten4 månader sedan
  • 13:28 you missed Tasmania!

    charliergcharlierg4 månader sedan
  • Ah yes, typing in listings. I did that exactly once, I think.

    Stephan BrunStephan Brun4 månader sedan
  • I remember my dad telling be about games being stored on cassette tapes. When I mentioned floppy discs, he mentioned how those were more expensive. I wonder how things were here in Denmark in terms of tapes and discs. Germany is our neighbor country, and this video mentions floppy discs having been popular there.

    HarasenHarasen4 månader sedan
  • I used a tape drive with my Tandy Color Computer 3 growing up. There was a bug/issue that if you saved a program while the computer was running in high speed mode (double speed from POKE 65497,0) the program would end up garbled when you loaded back in. Often times line numbers were all messed up and even out of order when using LIST.

    SoleyaSoleya5 månader sedan
  • In the UK, Kids TV programmes used to broadcast games on air. You could then record them and play them on your computer.

    Phill HealeyPhill Healey5 månader sedan
  • The Commodore tape unit was called "Datasette". I had one for the Commodore 16, (and yeah the disk drives costed sometimes more than the computer itself) but when I got a Commodore 128, I saved to buy a 1571 Disk Drive. (Double head)

    Fernando GonzalezFernando Gonzalez5 månader sedan
  • Also, how did you find the VIC-20 game audio files? Is there a website for that kind of like the one for the Apple II?

    Sean CullenSean Cullen5 månader sedan
    • Probably just recorded the tapes to some format and then played them again for demonstration.

      CSTCST4 månader sedan
  • Back in the 80's Danish Radio would transmit software for cassette drives late at night. They would tell you which computer it was intended for - and they actually endorsed recording with a hifi tape deck - only it should be recorded at about +3 dB ...

    Anders HenriksenAnders Henriksen5 månader sedan
  • Hi, im thinking about buying a VIC-20 and I don't know if this is a stupid question (I'm just getting into vintage computers) but can you store text on a cassette? or is that not possible.

    Sean CullenSean Cullen5 månader sedan
  • Nice video. As a kid I had experience with games on cassettes because we had the Arcadia/Starpath add-on for the Atari 2600, but this video gave me some insight on how that actually worked. :)

    BigSleepyOxBigSleepyOx5 månader sedan
  • at 6:23 what was that ep of red dwarf psi kown ithis vide is 4 year old

    bunkergamerbunkergamer5 månader sedan
  • 8:52

    Mahbub TonoyMahbub Tonoy5 månader sedan
  • using sound to load a program that reminds me of police acadamy where Larvell Jones ( Micheal Winslow) used his mouth (making sounds) to open a safe.

    Sheila olfieWaySheila olfieWay5 månader sedan
  • "the great thing about the datasette was that if i typed in this long program, i could record it to tape." *they're juicy* (edit): also: 2:23 *D E A T H S C R E E C H*

    Gabe R.Gabe R.5 månader sedan
  • Theres some large tape drives in Black ops one

    GageChase TacomamaGageChase Tacomama5 månader sedan
  • The Tape drive of the Philips P2000 could random access and search files on its own. It used a Tape like a Disk Drive.

    Rainer WeningerRainer Weninger5 månader sedan
  • I worked at Bonniers as a printer operator in 1990. The data normaly came on reel tapes. They also had a "Hard Disk" station about 3 feet high 2 feet wide and 3 feet deep. I don't remember exactly how much it could store but I think it was 10-20 MB. It had a direct line from the city to the suburb where I worked (about 10 miles of cable) and I can't imagine it was cheap. I was printing invoice forms and such. The printers had 150 hammers and then the alphabet and all other characters 3 times on a metal band turning around at high speed. It could print 1200 rows per minute, insane speed. We had three of these printers and two tape stations and the disk station. Sometimes all three printers were hammering away at the same time. They cost 500.000 SEK each in 1990, 876.000 SEK in today's money $101.600.

    Go By CarGo By Car5 månader sedan
  • I had plenty of experience with cassette data storage, first with the TI-99/4a and then the Atari 800XL. With the TI you can at least use your own cassette player although it was so finicky about volume you're more likely to receive an "Error: No Data Found" or "Error Detected in Data" message than it is to successfully load the program. With the Atari 8-bit it was painfully slow to load a program, not to mention you can only use the player available by Atari but it had no volume. For example I owned a cassette to a game called Zombies (which was the original version of Realm of Impossibility) and it literally took a half hour to load. Luckily for the Atari I had a disk drive which was so much faster and I almost always saved programs I typed in BASIC from computer magazines (like Family Computing, Compute! and Antic) onto blank disk.

    Ben MilerBen Miler5 månader sedan
  • 6:33 literally every PC today has that! Cool they didn't remove that.

    Lokalni Klosar 1Lokalni Klosar 15 månader sedan
  • I was born in 1987. First video game I ever played was Tetris in that old tetris handheld. First time I played on a PC was the 1989 Prince of Persia in 1998. Now that I'm an avid gamer with a high end gaming PC that I've built, I really appreciate the struggle you guys went through to play video games back in the day. It's really fascinating.

    DarklanovDarklanov5 månader sedan
  • Why the title of video is in Spanish and the video is in English?

    Josafat Fernando SJosafat Fernando S6 månader sedan
  • Imagine all those hardware now fits on an FULL ATX case

    Ephraim Pyros AvillaEphraim Pyros Avilla6 månader sedan
  • Ah Killer Comet. I remember having that listing and many more in a small book for my vic20 back in early 80s. About 50 games or something and a few were requiring +3k etc. My mum looked into expansion cartridges at the time in Australia but were getting hard to find, ended up getting a c64 then instead.

    Shane Van IngenShane Van Ingen6 månader sedan
  • Que educativa forma de volver al pasado, muchas gracias

    Ismael Vega RavanalIsmael Vega Ravanal6 månader sedan
  • 📼🤰 CASSETTE TAPE AND BABY INSIDE A MOMMY A'D HIS TUMMY WIL LBPOO

    Lilhyz ExploreLilhyz Explore6 månader sedan
  • What is ironic is that this video is about cassetes and he used a Datasette for the intro

    Vinnie OSTVinnie OST6 månader sedan
  • Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepraccacc

    Home alone boy ytHome alone boy yt6 månader sedan
  • Yeh that was fun back then, I think I'm the only one in my Computer class to remember all the Commodore keyboard shortcuts

    Chris 5949Chris 59496 månader sedan
  • Non ci sono i sottotitoli in italiano

    naxil81naxil816 månader sedan
  • I started with 5 1/4" floppies, but we did have a tape drive. By that point we never used it, of course, since disks were far better. My dad once showed me, though, and we described the experience as: "Start loading the game, have lunch, then come back and it _might_ be done."

    OstsolOstsol6 månader sedan
  • It's fantastic how technology was. As far as I remember, in my country the personal computer became a thing after 1995 when floppy disks where really a thing

    Bogdan54Bogdan546 månader sedan
  • This might be How Cortana Or Siri Started

    Pinoy Music StationPinoy Music Station7 månader sedan
  • People are amazed to find out that magnetic tape storage is still used today, in research/archives especially. It's: energy efficient, cheaper per tb, long term reliable and secure.

    riothero313riothero3137 månader sedan
  • 10:31 I have that exact stereo. LOL

    Jacqui SandersonJacqui Sanderson7 månader sedan
  • Why does the casette drive on the left look too much like an SNES cartridge?

    X86fanboyX86fanboy7 månader sedan
  • Fast Loaders for Tapes didnt exist in the early days. Games on the C64 didn't have flashing borders and static screens when loading from Tape until later in the Computers life. Tape Games such as Hover Bover, Monty on the Run and Loco took up to 20 minutes to load. I remember my original Tape copy of River Raid took 28 minutes to load. Sometimes not playing because the Tape Heads or mechanism was getting old. Fast Loaders sped up loading to a couple of minutes, sometimes faster than the 1541 Disk Drives 3 minutes load times. Eventually Epyx Fast Loader and Mach 5 Carts gave us overall peripheral speeds worth cheering about. Also Tape Copier Adapters (Hacks) allowed Two Datasettes to be connected and copy a Game to the second tape unit as it loaded.

    Paul JanekPaul Janek7 månader sedan
  • UFO ..... yeaaaaaahhhh ;)

    Franz HegerFranz Heger7 månader sedan
  • REEEEEEEEEEEE

    Ocean BlazeOcean Blaze7 månader sedan
  • All your tapes are belong to us

    Ryan CourtRyan Court7 månader sedan
  • I read that modern tapes can hold over 10TB and are much cheaper than other forms of backup storage, and then I see that a modern tape drive costs a large amount of money even though the tapes themselves are cheap as hell for their size. :(

    DeathlordUSADeathlordUSA7 månader sedan
    • @Bogdan54 Well yeah, it's just for backing up large quantities of data long term. Stuff that doesn't need to be read or written to for a while but needs to be stored regardless.

      DeathlordUSADeathlordUSA6 månader sedan
    • Yeah, they are cheaper then other forms of storage but look at the price of equipment needed for that. I mean what the hell, do I really need to pay so much? And it isn't as relevant for reading or writing data on it compared to a hdd or an SSD.

      Bogdan54Bogdan546 månader sedan
  • Oh my God this video starts with a horror nightmarish story 😂😂😂

    Julien CKJMJulien CKJM7 månader sedan
  • what is that game website?

    Ronen BarenboimRonen Barenboim7 månader sedan
  • We need to access Wally's memory from when he was a proud engineer @The8-BitGuy

    Wil WardWil Ward7 månader sedan
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