The Audi Quattro, Lancia 037 and the Peugeot 205 T16 - some of the most iconic names in rallying. Cars that pushed the limits of what was possible in a way that we haven’t seen since. It was called Group B and is still held as the Golden Era of Rallying.
Group B was a class where manufacturers were allowed to go all out, with almost unlimited power, crazy aerodynamics and new exotic materials. It brought about new technologies like 4WD, Semi-Automatic Gearboxes and clever turbocharging systems.
However, it was only for the bravest of drivers. The hugely powerful cars needed a lot of manhandling to thread them through the tight-twisty stages, away from huge drops and dodging a sea of spectators.
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Rallying went wild in the 80s. The FIA wanted to attract more manufacturers and so created a class that would give the designers pretty much free reign, no power limits, no regulations on boost, and whatever exotic materials you liked.
Rally cars over the years have been largely based on road cars, with rules tightening and loosening on how close the relationship has to be, between the stock car, and the ones that actually race the stage.
For example, in the Group A class - the manufacturers have to produce 5000 road-going versions of the car before it is allowed to compete. In Group B, to lower costs and interest manufacturers, they ruled that only 200 needed to be produced. Group B also allowed almost endless modifications to be made - meaning the race cars were nothing like the road cars at all.
This approach really worked, attracting many manufacturers to Group B - names like Lancia, Porsche, Peugeot, Audi, Toyota, Ford - as well as so many more.
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Someone should bring it back!
When men died like real men
After watching the video, I think it's very important to point out, that it wasn't the cars which were dangerous, it was the track, that had a giant cliff to its side.
Yes and it's sad how this gave birth to some of the craziest and most beautiful designs in car manufacturing ever, but has now been replaced by over-regulated mediocrity.
You pronounce Lancia wrong. It's Italian, not English. The letter C in Lancia is pronounced like Italian word 'ciao' or English word 'choose'. You are pronouncing it like it is LanSia, which is not the case. In Italian the letter C may be hard (like the English word 'chaos') or soft (like 'ciao' or 'Lancia'), but it is never pronounced like an S. Use this trick: write 'spear' on Google Translate and translate it to Italian. Spear is English for lancia. Click on the speaker icon, that's the correct pronunciation 🎩
3:40 rip to that camera lol
Let's not forget that while there was men doing this. There was a woman driving these with more balls then them
Delta S4...the car!
wow these cars are just ......
Lanseeya - seriously? Do you really know what you talk about or just random internet guy gobbling together others videos and text found in Wikipedia? this is a bit of rhetorical question, because the video is obviously very interesting.
Don't really agree with the animals being on the track as they could get hurt but it's a cool idea to have moving obstacles
it actually pisses me off idiots are standing in the middle of the track. honestly if they got hit its just natural selection at that point
Am I the only guy who noticed the camera man dropping the camera?
@5:10 IIRC the quattros (even gruppe B) did not have their gearbox below the engine,it was behind it and the engine way far forward (also not ideal)......street cars SAAB 99/900 "classic" are one of the few cars with the engines on top of the gearbox....and the case actually acted as the engines sump.
Drivers should have received bonus points for taking out the moronic spectators. The vermin didn't deserve any better,
I watched a fair bit of rally racing in the early 90s and I don't know who was crazier, the drivers or the spectators
MICHELE MOUTON, ARI VATANEN, JUHA KANKKUNEN, WALTER ROHRL! They don't make drivers like that any more.
Lan-cha...LAN-CHA! That's how you pronounce Lancia! (Good video btw, loved these smexy, barely controllable, beasts! :D )
He said that these cars where only for the most bravest drivers. I would say it was for the most bravest spectators too, did you see some of those crazy fools? Talk about putting yourself at risk, what a different world we live in now. These days saftey has taken over and you could never get as close to the cars as these mad f. Even f1 would have an offical on the track to wave the chequred flag, literally inches away from a car doing 200mph
The shots with the old Quattros with aero kit half smashed, smoking brakes, steam pouring from the bonnet, spitting fire, hitting the limiter, whistling, and all four wheels throwing massive rooster tails broadside around the corners are surely enough evidence that the Quattro was the angriest car that ever lived, and it's driver's the maddest.
Modern boring F1 can talk an excample out of this. Almost no regulations, which leads to excitment and new innovations.
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Rally is for boys - Group B was for men!!
AmaZing video
Huh? Bri'ish?
I remember watching a different documentary and they said that after the races the drivers would find fingers and other pieces of human and animals on cars... very disturbing
Audi quattro the first car to effectively use 4wd in racing? Nope. See: Lotus type 56, and even the Jeep Wagoneer in the 1972 press on regardless rally (both of which basically caused the rules to be changed to limit racing in their classes to 2wd designs, due to other manufacturers complaining that 4wd caused an 'unfair advantage' over the rest of the field).
I don't know how drivers were able to concentrate, with hundreds of complete morons standing in the road.
now we are all 'safe' and 'happy'
The spectators have a death wish
The spectators are almost as stupid as Republicans.
Am i allowed to put a nuclear reactor in my class b rally car
@Gregdabrat Ok. You could get problems with the state laws, but not with the Group B regulations.
@AF Rules Good.
yes.
This video nails it... 10x on the Thumbs Up's! Bravo!
No Celicas nor Ford RSs? Group B already gone at the time?
80's to early 2000's are the peak of gas engines, now we are stepping to the new era
these days crashes like Jari Matti's in Portugal 2009 happen and both drivers get out of the car and climb back up the hill. it's crazy to me how unsafe a road car is compared to a modern race car. seworld.info/will/g46Xua69kJR823U/video
The invention of the privately owned car is man's greatest mistake. Cars are coffins.
As far as I am concerned, if people are willing to take the risk, let them. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity; the drivers are brave and the spectators are stupid. Let it ride!
his "Audi" sound like "Aldi' lol
When rally was intresting
The moronic spectators destroyed group B by not GETTING OFF THE FUNKING ROAD. They literally look like today's usless protesters, though I'd love to see a group B rally driver go thru a sea of protesters though watch that score go sky high.
One of the best videos I have seen no cap, reminds me of the "Rally Group B - Tribute" video, that one gives me tears
Rally at its best.
lancia were really clever with 037 audi had ass kicked
not one moment he's not talking
Group b rally drivers where like warriors, no fear
Even if the ford rs200 guy didnt go to jail he might have a very big burden i feel bad for him
The day Group B ended was the day Rallying became very PC and boring.
Group B needs to make a comeback!
It's funny how they tried to outlaw it, but now with rallycars thru their machinations of greater speed and handling through technology 'racing improves the breed' ethos are now just about to go full circle and become newer, faster, safer versions of their group B selves in the 2020's
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Indeed a Golden Era
7:01 No he didn't 🤣🤣🤣
After having beaten the new futuristic 4 wheel drive, Audi, with the 037, Lancia adopted the same traction system with the Delta, and... 6 victories in a row!!!! Nothing else to add! Just sorry for the others!
Lancia remains the major rally championship winner of the world! No way! Still unbeaten!
"The cars were too powerful" You have people standing ON the rave track. The problem had nothing to do with power
I would love to see this come back but with just a tiny bit of restriction to make it a bit more safe
This was when drivers could genuinely be described as 'brave', 'fearless', and had unlimited skill. These are the sort of people who deserve to be recognised as 'greats'. Unlike that virtue-signalling, hypocrite. racist, Lewis Hamilton.
Safety? Go by bus. What's the fun if life isn't at stake?
It's so sad what happened to Lancia. Even tho the Quattro was awesome too, i think the 037 was just such a mad and perfect car that always tried to kill the driver and that + the looks are what makes it the best rally car that ever existed.
Great video mate, really nailed it.
Awd
Talk about Ford RS200!
FYI modern rally cars are wayyy quicker than these old cars.
FYI.... don’t care... these cars are super fucking cool... sport Quattro all day
Nice one. I loved these as a lad, my daddy worked for British leyland, fond memories of meeting Tony ponds co-driver, and sitting in his tr7. And watching the cars go off the ramp in the middle of Bath, the noise was amazing, it was everywhere, bouncing off the tall buildings. Cheers mate, lovely memories.
Group B: When spectators ran for their lives.
Lancia decided to, let’s say bend the rules a little. It lied about how many cars were homologated to the road, lied about the construction of its roll cages (which actually made the 037 a death trap for driver if they crashed) and even swapped out tires mid-race on some stages. The latter bit wasn’t explicitly against the rules but it wasn’t exactly allowed either. Lancia also had its driver pour salt on icy roads ahead of their car, which was against the rules as well. Lancia drivers would also delaying their start times on dusty roads, so as to let the dust finish settling from the previous car, even if that was also against the rules.
What is "rallying-k" ? I know what rallying is, but "rallying-k" is new to me?
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The existence of this group probably brought many quick developments within the car market, thanks to the ammount of freedom manufacturers were given. Too bad it was short-lived because some people couldn't realize how dangerous this freedom was.
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Why don't you just shut up and let those monsters speak for themselves
AWD* just sayin
The Pikes Peak record is held by an electric car driven by Romain Dumes with a time of 7 min 57.148 and looks more like a Formula 1or LeMans car than a rally car. New breed of car altogether internal combustion engines have had there time infact in the UK you won't even be able to buy a new internal combustion engined car after 2030.
Great video, really informative
,,,....and....Lancia ,,,..and,,,..Peugeot ,,,..and,,,...AUdi ,,,.... and ,,,....so many more.. Name 1 more?
yeah i heard it the start dejavu
Lancia ❤️🌠
I heard a story that they found torn off fingers in the engine compartement of Juha Kankkunen's 205
There was a finger jammed in the rear spoiler of the peugeot 205T16 after 1000 lakes really..
Imagine if they used vtec with the supercharger and trubo what that sound would be like
The fluffy society additionaly disappear because titanium prospectively scare since a muddled mustard. chivalrous, obsequious crayfish
"You have the situationnal awareness of a rally race spectator." Some pretty harsh words to be uttered only to those who truly deserved it.
Loved this - proof things really were better in my day! We had Group B and we had F1 that were on the limit and super dangerous in the 80s
Group B was crazy, but nothing compare to the Tourist Trophy.
I read that Group B was already planned to be abandoned *before* Toivonen's deadly crash but that the advanced Group S cars which were set to replace Group B never got to race in 1987 as planned. Group S cars were limited to 300hp but were otherwise as advanced (even more so actually) as the Group B cars. Instead the FIA decided to make the fairly "standard spec" Group A the prime rally class.
Spectators just built different
666K view!!! Ave satan! Deus B!
Well put together.
Not this video having 666k views
i dont get it, rally is still dangerous and accidents still happen, what is gained by shuting off group b...
Listen to those monsters, just demonic.
Great video!
Anyone else drive the Audi Quattro S1 E2 in Dirt Rally 2.0? It's a beast
These spectators are crazy. At what point do you think it's a good idea to stand in front of a car going balls to the wall fast going around a corner on dirt?
The viewers are the reason why we cant have rally the way it was in Group B! The bhp limit in modern rally rly is the reason i dont watch it.
A restrictionless race, on narrow roads, consisting of some of the most unstable surfaces? Let's provide very little room for error on the drivers behalf!
3:38 rip the camera lmao
Was the greatest era ever, too many crowds was the biggest problem. Introduced stupid rules and lost crowds/ popularity, therefore lost money and became the niche sport it has become
Dont forget the delta s4
What a fast era!
The S4 whilst insanely quick and an absolute beast was known for being a complete pig to drive. Only Henry Toivonen could properly drive it, and when he died at the hands of the S4 people realised that if even Henry Toivonen couldn't race it, then it was just going to get worse and worse.
Audi v Peugeot is one of the more underrated motorsport rivalries, from rallying to lmp1 and now hyper car I’ve always loved the two going at it. I was lucky enough to grow up in sebring watching the r15 vs 908