Building my Dream Computer - Part 2
12 sep 2019
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Please incorporate modern fast storage like CF, SD or TF or even mSata or m.2 NGFF
I want I want I want
19:25 This is epic
I like the red and black design for the case. I love the idea for this project.
Obey your thirst 1:46
Please I want help I need a converter from USB or ps2 to the old 5din pin keyboard who has xt coding I want to make an at to xt keyboard for my very old computer and I don't have pic 12f629 in my country so I can't use it put I try with pic12f675 but it didn't work because the coding isn't right
14:49 lol
why does shift and 2 type a '@' symbol on the emulator
David - an update on the project overall would be greatly appreciated. I really want to learn how to program for the X16 - I wish I had been like you and really gotten into this as a kid - but now time is way more limited and knowing the status of the components would be greatly appreciated! Thanks and I can't wait to get one (or more!) of these when they're ready!
Hert
14:37 ok m8
Whoa! This Yamaha YM-2151 has an AWESOME sound! This really must make it inside. Even if rebuilt by FPGA. It sounds awesome :)
I would really like to see this in a kit!
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Do you think there will ever be a successor to this? It would be interesting to see what improvements they could make- personally I am filing for a handheld option
I hope the stage 3 one at least has some GPIO pins
It’s a shame that nobody makes off-the shelf video chips anymore, but if designing computers like this were easy, everyone would do it.
please someone tell me the name of that space ship game around 1:35 i played that a ton as a kid and for the life of me cannot find it or remember what it was called...
I made a 4 chip AY-3-8912 PC card back in the very early 90's. Fun stuff. Same as 8910 minus the extra I/O ports. Miss the old days. One would think wait states could be added to the bus when accessing the AY-3-8910's. Not sure how easy that would be with the 6502.
i am a little BIT late, wow this is getting me jumping, i miss my C=64c &128 & plus4, i enjoyed testing ideas through the user port on the 64, please bring it all back
19.10 Sinclair spectrum (dead flesh keyboard original version as shown) DID not have any sound chip.
I'm eating this stuff up, as I'm a retired EE working from 1981, so this equipment brings back that warm familiar feeling. I broke down and bought a VIC-20 from K-Mart when the price dropped to $239. It only came with 5k or 6k of RAM. I put a 24k expansion card on it. You have a new subscriber! 🙂
i wish i could buy one to port doom to it
Excuse but Commodore was defunct 26 years ago.
41:17 Could I get song pleeease.😱 Sounds sooo sweeeeat!
I got it seworld.info/will/bqzQm8-ne5-nz3k/video. But I am not sure about if it's level to download them. I will just hear em from youtube 😂
I would be happy if the Enter key become L shaped and the backspace key is 2 rows, that is my dream keyboard
When will there be more updates about the Commander X16?
পশচিম বাংলার রাজা এবার হবে পৃথিবীর সেরা ইনজিনিয়ার পানতিক দোয়ারী যার একটা সইয়ের দাম হবে কয়েক হাজার কোটি টাকা ☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝
Cool! Is it ghost private compatible so you can use it when not alive?
dedicated video ram? Make sure you support enough sprites in a row and scroll registers, otherwise you end up with the same issues as an MSX has. Edit: after watching a bit more, a 3D game with this approach means you have to build image in RAM and then blit it to the videoram. This is slow. Direct addressing would be a very useful feat.
Respect ! I bow to you 8BitGuy1 !!! I was raised on - my first exp was Spectrum (my 5 yrs older sister and her friends....) Than my best friend got Commodore 64 and later I had Amiga 500..... What a great times ! Wish you very best of luck and thanks for video !
I want one
But can it run doom?
I love the 7805. So many cheap awesome toys have come my way because of it.
How is this boring and interesting at the same time?
39:19 no, everyone would try to run doom on it
20:42 The circuit board mock up reminds me of a Doom I or II map, ngl. (Probably, MAP14 "Suburbs")
Over a year and no Part 3?
@ I know other people are working on the CX16 and I know from other sources there are problems with the new boards. I don't see any identity for your channel. So who are you to say?
@Dendrite Digital No, The 8-Bit Guy is just focused on other projects
@ Are there any problems with the Commander X16 boards?
Correct, he's currently working on other projects and has no time for the Commander X16
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Have you tried to use TempleOS?
What is NMI/button do/for? (Pardon my Commodore ignorance). Interesting, PetDraw is like the very old ANSI drawing program called just "TheDraw"... :) RichE San Diego, CA
i took a class in community college about computer programming flucked the hell out of that class cuz Everything flew over my head, but i can tell what your going after, and I agree the way that games are made now, everything is just pre-made and pre-packaged the closer people get to machine language, the better, because it forces you to think differently and therefore forces more character in games anyway, i like the premise of the project hope it keeps going
Man. You should of been hired by commodore in the 80s.
Afew late but... what do you think about the parallax propeller as avideo and/or sound chip...?
20:50 , maaaaate.... you've gone WELL overboard. A custom ATX case?!?!? At best it should be a laser-cut plastic box, at worst you just cut holes in the cardboard box it comes in. Expandable!?!? Mate you're not replacing the PC. Apple gave up on competing like that years ago, and they were the biggest competition to PCs (and still a small fraction of the market). Chuck 2 sound chips in, why not 6? 8? Dude, there is no nostalgia attached to this, nobody had one as a child, and very few people even learned BASIC never mind machine code. Especially C64 unfinished BASIC where there were no commands for graphics or sound, despite those being the machine's selling point. You're aiming at, who? Millionaires who enjoyed programming 6502 machine code back in the day, and the people who want to learn BASIC in a way that's completely useless and unrelatable to modern machines. 200 - 300 dollars!?!? Make a list of how many people are working on this project. You might sell your product to half of them. That's it. FFS don't remortgage your house to pay for this. Obviously you're doing well with the SEworld money, and I suppose if this project brings in viewers then it's paying for itself that way. But you've let feature creep get in. You need to maybe set a fixed budget, and anyone who says "it would be nice to have xxxx" has to take something else out of the design to pay for it. If you really want expandability just have 1 port like the Spectrum did, an open bus. Same sort of thing in the C64's cartridge port. 1 connector, and if you want to be economical make it a PCB edge, $0 extra cost. Then if people want to expand, they can add a 4-way expansion adaptor if they want one. Lots of companies back in the day offered boxes like that, multi-way expansion. And not a single one of them was ever sold. You really, really need to identify your market here. Obviously, "nerds", but you need to go further than that. Anyone can add new chips when it's just a chat on Facebook, but when it comes to actually buying them it's a much heavier commitment. How about anyone who proposes to add a new chip, has to buy 100 of them out of their own money? That'll cut down the daydreamers. Anyway, dude. This whole caper might be educational as an example of how tech companies fail, but it's all been written down and recorded before back in the 1980s, featuring actual professionals and their crazy blue-sky ideas driving them out of business.
Ok just seen stage 3... an FPGA on a board. FFS! Was that not exactly what you wanted to avoid? Other people already make boards with FPGAs and RAM, dozens of companies do that. How many of your enormous market are gonna buy a Stage 3 having not wanted a Stage 1. I dunno if I even need to pick it to bits. Put your parachute on and jump. This project has failed, gotten out of hand, bad management and not sticking to the plan. And also not having a plan to start with, just some nebulous things that might be nice. Seems like nobody was able to say "No" to any suggestion, so you got further and further away from anything anyone would buy, and then with Stage 3, light years away from reality. 1 stage! That's what you get, 1 stage! They didn't sell the first cars with square wheels, round ones coming in Stage 2, and in Stage 3 you get an engine instead of having to stick your feet through the floor like the Flintstones. You have to have a viable sellable product from the start. You're really not gonna need to get an ASIC made for this, trust me.
Wow, Periphractic guy is so unbearably smug. He could do between-programme announcements on some minor digital channel at 4 in the morning, his voice is so calm and well-modulated that sometimes it's impossible to actually hear. And his girlfriend makes cutesy noises and he has his fucking dog in the videos and..... I bet he does captions over stills of the dog, and does a funny voice like the dog is speaking. Sorry California, apparently you're where the British are now offloading our considerable git surplus to. Just put him in a corner somewhere. Occasionally he'll try and launch his own tech startup but ignore him, just make sure he's got enough food, water, and hair product.
We've gone well over a year since the last update video. This seems to be taking longer than planned. Any new updates coming? Even if just a brief snapshot of where things stand?
Apparently, updates now only in the Facebook group.
If I'm honest, I'd definitely buy this if it came in a breadbin like the Commodore 8 bit machines.
When part 3?
I think Admiral 16 would be another cool name because admiral (rear admiral anyway) is the next naval rank up from commodore, the latter of which was abolished in 1983 (the year after the Commodore 64 was released!)
Anxiously waiting for continuation of this series. David you’re videos are like therapy to me
I would use an Arm. I wouldn't bother with a 6502.
+++++++iI HAVE GOT A "PERDONSALISED COMPUTER" OF 3.3 .3 GIGASBYTES OF MEMORY ??? AND WORKS ON WINDOWS 10 AND WITH ME BEIMG A PREVIOUS OMPUTER SALESMAN (NOW RETIRED) AND KNOWING MANY PEOPLE IN COMPUER FIELD I CAN SPEND LL OF MY TIME MAKUNG "A PERSONALISED COMPUTER++++++++++++++I THINK ??? MY NEXT COMPUTER WILL HAVE ABOUT 10 GIGABYTES AND WILL BE (TE ROLLS ROYCE) OF ALL COMPUTERS. ALSO WORK ON WINDOWS 10++++++++++++++OH WELL ITT EITHER THAT OR GO ON ANOTHER WORLD TRIP++++++++++++++???++++++++++++++ ??? ANY IDEAS ??? ON WHS SHALL O++++++++++++++???++++++++++++++
keep the 65816 on the motherboard with 64k ram to use 16mb of ram use an expansion card with the extra components on one of the slots
i definetly will be all for this! it looks amazing already!. also could there be a possible Sound Card (like a Soundblaster or Adlib?)
would you be releasing your games (Planet X2 and/or Attack of the Petsky Robots) as launch titles for the system? also would you be releasing a GUI OS for the Commander X16 (maybe inspired by GEOS, GEM, or Amiga Workbench)?
BlueSpartan 076 Good idea!
Who made the design of the commander 16 the guy was showing? I need someone for a simple custom design for a product I'm developing. thanks
This is like an underdog story
I bumped my toe and it megahert
I love the idea of this. A community coming together to build a PC. It's nostalgic. As if you guys were your own startup PC company in the 1980s.
I already want a C compiler for this dude.
Honestly, if talking about CREATING an actual computer as a hobby, this would be also my dream computer.
Please give another update!
When you asked what real machine this would be similar to I thought about the NEC SuperGrafx, the ill-fated update to the TurboGrafx 16. 7.1MHz 6502ish CPU, 32KB SRAM, 1MB external memory bus w/built-in bank switching, 128KB VRAM, two graphics layers with sort of almost 256 colors (15 color tiles but 16 palettes) plus 128 sprites and 6 channel simple wavetable sound. You could get all that extra RAM and ROM on a cartridge (Arcade Card had 2MB RAM). Doesn't exactly have an 80 column mode but you could do 64 column (512 pixels wide) by about 60 rows w/interlacing, it just wouldn't look too good on a TV. No true bitmap modes but you can emulate it with tiles.
The Vera chip is like putting an rx580 in a powermac g4
@3:55, in fact you can test individual components if you leave debugging probes in the prototype boards and expansion room for changes thst may be needed. That's what is done in clean sheet designs.
Instead of that boring 6502 you could have selected 6809 or (even better) Hitachi 6309 - I mean one of the two probably best 8-bit CPUs ever made. "Dream computer" featuring just 6502? A modest dream indeed.
IS this project still ongoing? I haven't heard anything in a while.
@Ashton Snapp Thanks!
There is a website - commanderx16.com Should be up to date there
@Sebastian Larrosa Wow... Seems you are actually missing the point of the project. He addressed the pi in his first video... 🤦♂️
@Sebastian Larrosa No that argument was specifically addressed in the first Video. The Raspberry Pi, as a Linux Machine, is not suited for this project. The 400 didn't change that.
@Sebastian Larrosa that’s not the point of this though, it is not supposed to be a powerhouse it is supposed to be a modern retro computer
Did we ever get a part 3?
Not yet.
His masterplan is so great that Technoblade is in shame
That's machines a beast. Well-done so far.
not a fan of seeing prats like retro recipes appearing in your videos. now unwatchable and unsubcribed.
I'm drooling!!
when is the next update coming??
if you ever do this again you should really get in contact with youtube Ben Eater, he built an 8-bit computer on a bread board and an 8bit cpu on a breadboard. his videos actually helped me learn how the 65c02 worked and everything about an 8bit computer. not to mention the mad man built his own GRAPHICS CARD ON A BREADBOARD!
Amazing work, but this is a niche product to put it mildly.
Dream.
I think this is most of our dream computers
Can I say the "approval" for the Facebook group is really aggressive and unfriendly. I know you don't want to be replying to the same question over and over, but often who is searching needs to know the just right keyword to get and answer that is obvious to others in the know.
Update
WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA HOW THE F**K ARE YOU DOING THIS 8-BIT GUY!
Lonely 8 bit guy has built himself a robot wife
Regarding the display chip, check out the FT815 on the Gameduino 2. You can't "peek/poke" to that, but programming is nice and opengl-like. True bitmap mode is still not available in the chip (www.ftdichip.com/Products/ICs/BT815_6.html).
Please go for the black case! It looks SOOO COOL
Part 3?
It can run Temple os?
Cool!
What happened to the project
its going on
@33:41 Its the megaman zapper graphic. Like any stage with an Elec-boss. Awesome
How about an update on the Commander X16 project? I'm still holding my money to buy this sucker as soon as you guys can produce it!
M3rC1.
i guess the zx spectrum harlequin project just did it. No FPGA! No microcontroller! And it has the same formfactor of a spectrum.
Does the webforum still exist? The link provided seems to only take me to a page where you can choose between The Geek Pub and your own website. I’d love to read up on updates but I gave up on FB and have no plans to go back.
That logo is killer. I love it. You should have a case with a tiny amount of RGB for the logo or strip - not too much so it isn't TOO fast... ;)
You need a cpu and cooling fan and some RAM
You guys are my heros
This is so cool! I want to build one when it's done and design a 3D printed case for it.
Vera?! Vera?! What has become of you?! - Roger Waters.
Very exciting!
The C68 was first PC in 1983, I loved your ideas to build new pc.